他们最好的

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原名:Their Finest又名:编写美好时光(港) / 他们的美好时光(台) / 她们最好的 / 他们的最好时光 / Their Finest Hour and a Half / We Happy Few

分类:剧情 / 喜剧 / 爱情 / 战争 /  英国   2016 

简介: 1940年的英国战争不断,每天都有敌军的空袭轰炸,但比满目疮痍伦敦更残破的是人民

更新时间:2021-10-14

他们最好的影评:Their Finest


Narrative Storytelling课老师布置的作业。课上老师说女主重写她和Tom的结局,是把生活真实变成了电影真实。妙!

讲了一部电影的幕后故事,以及作为这部电影的编剧的女主的感情生活。她写的剧本和她的感情部分是可以照应的,所以回味的时候觉得很巧妙:

女主Catrin刚开始没有正经办公桌,也只被当成临时工——剧本名义上讲的是两个女生的故事,但不被当成主角,英雄事迹被分配给男性完成(按编剧理论,主角应该是推动情节发展的人。这个剧本构思的时候就是两个女生参加敦刻尔克援救的故事,这两个女生按理说应该是故事的主角。但是编剧Tom一开始反对比如开小船、隔断绳索等关键行动由两个女孩完成,实际上是把她们在故事里的地位架空了);

她有男友,但是和Tom日久生情——剧本里的Rose也是三角恋;

Catrin开场已经订婚——剧本里的美国小伙遗憾退场,“I wasn’t there in the beginning of the story, but you can bet your bottom dollar I’m not leaving before the end. ”

在编剧团队对剧本结尾如何发展一筹莫展时,她写出了完美结局——剧本里的Rose成为关键时刻割断绳索的人,成为名副其实的主角、英雄。

剧本里的Rose和Lily慢慢地夺回了自己的主角地位,Catrin也拿回了属于自己的名字,才华被承认,成为了自己生活的主导。


感情戏来说,“I wasn’t there in the beginning of the story, but you can bet your bottom dollar I’m not leaving before the end. ”这句话是剧本里美国小伙对Rose说的,也是这部电影里Tom想对Catrin说的。所以很感动。

Tom的意外身亡是有点狗血,如果不安排在刚表白完的时候死掉会好很多,不那么戏剧化。但我很能理解编剧让Tom这个角色死掉的原因,这样女主才是完全独立的。她一扫颓废,投入下一份编剧事业也就显得更有力量。

可以拥有,也可以失去。就算失去也不会停下脚步。酷!!


另,我要骂死女主原本的男朋友Ellis,女友付的房租还觉得是女友给自己的天大压力。要去开展览,希望女友配合自己的工作场所,跟着自己走。他就没想过要配合女友的工作!探视也是女友跑来探视,没想过要去找下女友!还出轨!离谱


以下为台词摘录:

这段太帅了。是关于电影的真实的争论。男主为了自己的剧本辩护,说电影的真实是创作者挑选的。

There’s someone who says that the Starling sisters never got to Dunkirk. That their engine broke down before they even were out of British waters. Pity. Pity all around really. Your first draft boded it so well.

So the Starling sisters lied.(帮女主打掩护)What difference does it really make?

God sake! Of course it makes a difference! It’s not the truth!

The truth is they stole a boat from a man, who terrified them and set out to cross 50 miles of open sea into a war.

They never got there.

Because their engine failed! Now that’s a truth we won’t be telling. Moral sapping apparently. We pick our truths. Isn’t that the point?

We are saying, this is based on a true story.

Then don’t! For Christ above, man! You are supposed to be the propagandist. 700 ships went to Dunkirk! 338000 men came back! Don’t say “It’s based on a true story”! Say, “It’s based on a hundred true stories, a thousand!”

338000 thousand.

Dunkirk, the biggest retreat in military history. Or the miracle that put the fire back in all our bellies.

Very well. Carry on as you were. I have a car waiting.


电影可以被提炼出中心思想、意义,但生活不是。我作为一个旁观者,惹味Tom的死亡也可以被提取出意义,比如让女性更有力量。但对电影里的人物来说,他的死亡是随机的,他的死亡并不被期待负担起任何的责任或意义,是无法从意义角度去解构的。

Is Mr. Backer all right?

He lost one of his grandsons.

Oh!

Hit by a tram on shore leave.

Oh! Must make it so much worse. It wasn’t for anything. Poor Mr. Backer.

This wasn’t for anything. Why do you think people like films? Because story is a structure. They’re a shape, a purpose, a meaning. And when things turned bad, it’s still a part of a plan, you know. There’s a point to it. Unlike life.

The thing about men who sent away to war. Mrs. Cole, is that some of them don’t come back at all. Some come back as heroes, some of then come back drunk squalid bullies. I was better off out his way.

In the pub?

Or the pictures. I liked the pictures best. Once in a while you just need to make one that’s worth it. Worth the hour and a half of someone’s life is gonna cost to see it.


The flat’s yours, you’re the one who pays the rent.

You know the first time I painted you outside the steelworks? Maybe I shouldn’t have shown you walking away.

Oh, I don’t know Ellis. Maybe you shouldn’t have made me so bloody small.


Tom指责狗男人行径的样子太帅了

Marry you.

I’m already married.

No, you’re not.

That was private. It was a private conversation.

You had to buy the ring yourself in Woolworths. When times got hard he tried to send you back to Wales. And he’s disappointed in you? He’s a stupid bloody fool. But he’s not as much a fool as you. He changed your name for Christ sake!


审查对各国创作者来说都是个大问题哈哈哈哈哈

Americans feel that the ending as presently written, is too subtly nuanced, too restrained.

Restrained? I mean it’s practically a call to arms!

Their concern is more, what one might crudely call.. The love triangle. I’ve to say as far as the home front goes, we can’t let it look that if she rather had the American.

Well that would be the teeth.

Teeth or no teeth. What all parties need is a morally clean, romantically satisfying resolution.


世事无常

When we were shooting in Devon, you always seemed so… vivid. Perhaps I’m just in a sentimental mood. My landlady was killed yesterday. I could hear her husband crying through the wall all night long. It seems to me when life is so very precarious, it’s an awful shame to waste it.


这段太浪漫了,作为编剧的女主,为他们海边的争执写了一个新的故事走向,不愧是你!

A full moon, a clear sky. A man sits by the shore. There has been a quarrel. A woman is walking away from him. Now she turns back. “I didn’t mean what I just said. And anyway… You said worse.”

It was a declaration.

“Stupid bloody” fool was good. Did you think of that beforehand?

Are you trying to pick a fight with me Mrs. Cole?

No. What I’m trying to say is that, if all of this stopped, the sparring and the jibing, and the insults and the arguments. I’d miss it. Even if I were dead. I’d still miss it.

The Catrin Cole School of Dialog. On and on and on and on. Lose half.

Which half?

The half you don’t need.

Alright. Alright. I’d miss you.


不要让死凌驾于生之上

You and me. Given up opportunities only because young men are gone.. or dying. But to turn our back on those opportunities, even when one has suffered such great loss, wouldn’t that be giving death dominion over life?


虽然在故事的开头我缺席了..

In another time, another place.. could it had been me?

Perhaps. But you are talking about a world without Johnnie. That’s not a world I’d care to live in.

OS: Have you ever looked at something and known you want it? Want than anything ever you wanted in your life before. And know it can never be yours. I have. And I tell you, it will either finish you or put a fire in your belly that will keep burning to the end of your days. I wasn’t there in the beginning of the story, but you can bet your bottom dollar I’m not leaving before the end. Because I know it has to be the right sort of ending. The sort of ending that’s worth fighting for.


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